InfusionSoft is an integrated e-mail marketing, CRM (customer relationship management), and e-commerce platform.
It’s one of the most popular platforms for selling information products or services online, with many of the world’s top online gurus using it to run their businesses.
However, it has a bit of a reputation that often causes people to hesitate before they sign up for it.
After using it daily for two different businesses over the last two and a half years, I’ve spent a lot of time with Infusionsoft and would like to share my perspective on it for those considering it.
I hope to clear up some fog around Infusionsoft in your mind and help you make an informed decision about using it.
It’s common to hear that Infusionsoft is complicated, hard to use, and frustrating to learn. Many people give up on it and move to another system before they ever launch their business.
The bottom line is this: my opinion of Infusionsoft is positive overall. It’s a very powerful system and it’s worth getting through the hard part of the learning curve, and then coming to a state of acceptance with the not-so-good bits.
I definitely recommend using it, but there are some things to be aware of before diving in.
Here’s a snapshot of the good and not-so-good aspects of Infusionsoft from my perspective.
Good things:
It’s very powerful.
By “powerful” I mean that it can do many, many things. That translates into being able to grow your business quickly.
Everything is all in one place. CRM system, email marketing, ecommerce, affiliate system…it’s all rolled into one platform.
Having all that functionality in one platform means there’s no need to cobble together multiple different software platforms to get everything you need to run an online business that sells information products or services.
It integrates with other software to create paid membership sites.
Infusionsoft integrates with Customer Hub, WordPress, and Kajabi to allow you to create protected, paid access only membership areas of your website. (Infusionsoft recently acquired Customer Hub, so the integration between the two platforms will get even better moving forward.)
Kajabi also makes it easy to use Infusionsoft for the email marketing and ecommerce aspects of creating a membership site. (I think Kajabi has more beneficial features than Customer Hub, but that’s another story.)
Very flexible email list segmentation.
It’s easy to create email lists in Infusionsoft. Everything is based on tags, so if you want a new list, you just create a new tag and when people sign up for your new list, or buy a product, they can get tagged with the new list tag.
Tight integration of email marketing and ecommerce actions.
The opportunities to grow your business with the tight integration of ecommerce purchases and email marketing in Infusionsoft are many. Every purchase, whether a product or subscription, can generate a series of automated actions to be taken on the person’s record who made the purchase.
Tags can be added, auto responder emails sent, follow up sequences with other actions can be started, and many other things. It’s pretty amazing what you can do with the automated actions of Infusionsoft.
Fantastic phone support.
They’re not available 24/7 but when they are available, the Infusionsoft support team is great. If you ever get stuck with anything, they are just a phone call away, and the wait times are almost always very short (under a minute, if there’s a wait at all.)
Everyone I have ever spoken with at Infusionsoft has been friendly, knowledgeable, and very helpful.
Not so good things:
Infusionsoft can seem expensive if you’re starting out.
If you’d like to do email marketing and ecommerce in addition to affiliate tracking and other basic features, you’ll need the Plus package, which is currently $299/mo.
Given all that Infusionsoft does though, that’s not a lot of money for the foundation of the technology that will allow you to run your business.
I’m also not a big fan of the required training package fee, which the last time I heard was $1500.
I completely understand why they require it for new subscribers (Infusionsoft is hard to learn and their personalized training and having a one-on-one coaching makes learning easier), but for those of who are familiar with Infusionsoft, it’s an unnecessary expense and a service that won’t be used, which means we have to negotiate around paying it.
Sometimes though, you can get a discount off of the monthly rate as well as the training package. It depends on what offers they have going on and which salesman you speak with.
Poor sales reports.
Getting accurate sales data from Infusionsoft can be a bit of a headache. Once you figure out which report to use, and what numbers to pay attention to in that report (and which ones to ignore), you can create your own spreadsheets and graphs to show accurate sales numbers.
It is, however, very time consuming to create your own sales reports. I’m always left wishing there were better reports with visual representations of sales data.
Can’t process recurring payments with Paypal.
If you’re planning on selling automaticly recurring subscriptions, you currently won’t be able to allow people to pay for subscriptions with Paypal, because Infusionsoft can’t run payments through Paypal that automatically recur.
It can process one-time payments for products or services using Paypal, but because it can’t do recurring payments via Paypal, you will unfortunately be losing out on some sales.
There are many people around the world, particularly in countries outside of the U.S., who will only pay for things online via Paypal, and if they want to sign up for any of your automatically recurring subscriptions (or product with a payment plan that automatically recurs for a set number of months), they won’t be able to unless you provide a time consuming, manual workaround where you give them a special one-time payment link that they can use to pay with Paypal.
Then you have to manually track and run their payments through every month, sending them the link each time so they can pay with Paypal.
User interface and usability issues.
InfusionSoft can indeed be hard to learn, and a big reason, in my opinion, is it’s user interface. They are working on improving it with new releases of the software, but in my opinion, it still needs a good bit of work to get it to a place where it’s super easy to use.
Styling the cart checkout pages and web forms takes manual css work.
If you want your web sign up forms or shopping cart pages to look similar to your website, with things like colors and fonts matching the colors and fonts on your site, you’re going to have a good bit of custom css work to do.
The web form customization tool could be better.
The process of customizing the look and feel of the web forms and shopping cart pages would be much easier to do if there were a customization interface similar to that of Mailchimp’s web form editor, which is amazingly easy and fast to use when you’re customizing web forms in Mailchimp.
Email creation, templating, and editing is a bit clunky in some ways.
There is a selection of free, pre-designed email templates, but they are only available for people on PC’s via a download of a desktop email editing app.
If you’re on Mac you won’t have this option, which means there isn’t any pre-designed email templates that look really good out of the box in Infusionsoft if you’re using a Mac.
Mailchimp, iContact, and Aweber all beat Infusionsoft in this aspect.
So, if you’re on a Mac and are looking for an easy way to get a really great looking, sexy email template without having to do any custom email template work with their drag and drop email builder (or touching any code), you won’t be happy with this part of Infusionsoft.
Also, the email creation and editing workflow feels a bit awkward to me. They have 3 different types of email editors that allow you to edit in different ways (drag and drop, Classic builder, and the Code Builder).
Switching between the editors can make the email creation/editing process feel fragmented at times.
When you use the code builder, which gives you a raw view of the html of the email, after you save an email it will often alter the email template in undesired ways, such as adding in empty paragraphs where they shouldn’t be.
These kinds of things are a bit aggravating, and for a platform as robust as Infusionsoft is, and which relies heavily on its email marketing features, I would think that they would have made this part of the process much easier by now.
Now, with all that said, despite the not-so-good things I’ve mentioned, I still think that using Infusionsoft is worth getting past the challenging learning curve and learning to live with it’s not-so-good aspects.
The benefits far out-weigh the downsides.
Once you get it up and running and learn how to use it, Infusionsoft has a ton of features that allow you to build a business and revenue stream quickly.
How about you? Have you used Infusionsoft? If so, what’s your opinion of it?




Thanks Forest – I was googling how to do various things on Infusionsoft and your page was third in the Google ranking!
I’ve just switched over so there’s a lot to learn for me!
Hi Denise! Glad to know my site showed up in 3rd for some infusionsoft queries :) Hope the switch to Infusionsoft is going well. The new interface is much better than the old one, which what I was talking about in this post.
I’m going to have a good deal of infusionsoft training videos in the Web Tech Genius course I’m about to launch, which will make things quite a bit easier for folks starting out with it.
At any rate, thanks for saying hi!
Cheerio,
Forest
Hi Forest! Funnily enough I was searching for this answer on google and you came up on the top of google (well, about 3 down from top). I have signed up for Infusionsoft a few weeks ago and it seems that the only way to integrate IF shopping cart with Kajabi is to use their legacy system. It seems really odd, as I understand IF is going to phase out their legacy system. Can you tell me if this is correct, that I have to use their ‘old’ system to integrate with Kajabi. Thanks for your help ;-)
Hey Tora!
Fun that you found your way here through a google search!
So, yes…for now, in order to integrate Infusionsoft and Kajabi, you need to use a couple bits of Infusionsoft that are “legacy” features.
You’d still be using the new version of Infusionsoft, because it’s the only version they offer, but there are a couple areas inside of infusionsoft that have some old features from the previous version of infusionsoft that you need to use in order to connect it with kajabi.
And yes, IS is going to be phasing out those legacy features within the next year, I believe, but I’m sure that Kajabi is going to be updating their integration path to be able to use the newer features in Infusionsoft for integration with Kajabi, instead of the legacy features.
I need to ask them about their plans around this for my own business, so thanks for the reminder.
I’ll let you know what I find out. :)
See you in skype!
cheers,
~Forest
Hi Forest,
Thanks for the review. Since you posted it almost exactly a year ago, are there any updates you know of, especially regarding Mac compatibility? I am constantly amazed (and frustrated) at how many products still are either not available for Mac at all (e.g. Act! CRM) or have Mac versions but lack major components, as you mentioned above regarding e-mail templates. My small business is ready for a CRM system so I’m on the market. Do you know of any additional changes that have been made?
Thanks!
Hi Laura,
Infusionsoft has gone through a major upgrade since I wrote this original post, but it is still lacking in the nice looking html email template department.
I’ve gotten used to it and over the past year have been leaning more towards using very simple, uncluttered, minimal html email templates, and those can be created easily enough in Infusionsoft.
I’m not sure about the current status of the availability of the email templates I mentioned in this post for Mac users, but everything else about Infusionsoft is compatible with macs. I run two online businesses with Infusionsoft and all we have are macs for both businesses.
If you’re in the market for an all in one solution like Infusionsoft, it would be good to check out Office Auto Pilot too, which is the main competitor to Infusionsoft. I haven’t used OAP for a live business yet, but I have heard many people love it, and I’ve heard of several people who have moved from Infusionsoft to OAP as well.
Hope this helps a bit!
Cheers,
Forest
Been looking at IS and will check out Office Auto Pilot.Wondered too what your thoughts are about Adobe’s Business Catalyst?
Thanks so much for your Review of IS. Ann
Hi Ann,
I haven’t used Business Catalyst yet, so I’m not sure if you’d be able to do things like create a membership area of your site and deliver an online program. It doesn’t have those features built in, and I’m not sure it can integrate with other apps, like Kajabi, that do have that functionality.
BC looks like a promising platform, but seems to be missing a few key elements, at least if you’re going to sell an online program in a member’s only site.
Hope this helps a bit :)
Forest
Hey, thanks for the reviews! Now that it has been a year, have they figured it out to start to do automatic renewals through pay pal yet? Or is that something you still have to do manually month to month?
Thanks!
Hey Ryan. Glad you’re enjoying the reviews. About a month ago I heard that Paypal has finally agreed to work with Infusionsoft to get the recurring payments via paypal to work via Infusionsoft.
You still can’t do this with Infusionsoft, but there is at least hope that this will change in the next few months.
What we do for my wife’s business, which is also running on Infusionsoft, when someone wants to sign up for a program using a payment plan option through paypal, we send them a paypal subscription link, meaning, we set up a subscription in paypal and we send them a link to pay it with paypal. That sets up a recurring subscription in Paypal and it’s entirely outside of Infusionsoft.
This creates manual set up work to give access to the online program, but at least people can do a recurring subscription via paypal.
Cheers :)
Hey Forest
I just talked to Infusionsoft today! It was so expensive for a solo-preneur. My business could totally use what they have but I can’t afford the kick starter and the monthly fee although the salesperson I talked to today said he’d work it out for me…not sure what that means. I am going to continue my conversation with him and see what happens.
The information here has been helpful.
Thanks Michelle
Hi Michelle,
yes, I know…the required training fee can be a hard expense to swallow when you’re starting. I totally understand.
What the salesperson meant about working it out is that he’s open to negotiating the amount that you pay for the training package and perhaps also the monthly fee for Infusionsoft itself.
If you’re still interested, I would give him a call and see what kind of deal he can give you.
If, even with the deal, the required training package is still too expensive, I would recommend checking out Office Auto Pilot. They are one of Infusionsoft’s main competitors right now, and they don’t have a required training fee. The monthly fee for both Infusionsoft and Office Auto Pilot are pretty much identical.
Hope that helps a bit :)
All the best,
Forest
Thanks Forest! :-)
I have a hyperlocal print advertising company that is now also offering local online advertising products. Is infusionsoft right for me, or is another competitor a better fit?
Hi David,
It’s hard to say without knowing more about what you’re selling exactly and what your plans are for your business moving forward.
What are the local online advertising products that you mentioned? Infusionsoft is most often used by people who are looking to build up an email list and automate many aspects of their business, from sending out autoresponders, to their affiliate tracking system, to selling access to an online program or other information products that are delivered online in a member’s area.
You can definitely use it to sell other products, even physical products, or services, but a good way to tell if it’s right for you would be to ask yourself if you want to use direct email marketing campaigns and content marketing as a way to promote your business and build your email list of prospects. If so, then Infusionsoft may be a good fit for you.
If the answer to that question is yes, then I’d recommend setting up an appointment to get a tour of infusionsoft from them so you can see what it does, and if you go that route, I’d also recommend checking out their main competitor right now, which is Office Autopilot.
Hope this helps!
~Forest
very thoughtful answer. thank you.
Hello Forest,
have you heard of PWC-Premium Web Cart?? it seems to be the competition for infusion soft and office auto pilot .. I was just wondering if you have heard of this software??
Office Auto Pilot sounds good and PWC sounds good as well, just wondering if you can setup a Paypal recurring subscription in their system unlike infusion soft ..
Hey Tony,
I’ve heard of PWC, but haven’t had a chance to check it out myself. I’ve heard several people mention that they love it, but I don’t know enough about it yet to make any comments about it.
I’m not sure if you were asking about doing recurring payments with Paypal with Office Auto Pilot/Ontraport, or if you were asking if PWC could do that, but with OAP/Ontraport, you can do recurring subscriptions with Paypal as long as you have Paypal Payflow Pro or a Paypal Pro account (the later of which used to be called “Website Payments Pro.”)
It looks like you can also to recurring payments with Paypal within PWC too, so with either option, you’d be able to do that.
Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Forest
Thanks Forest .. it sounds like PWC is a new company if I’m not mistaken
This is a small bone to pick with Infusionsoft, but definitely worth mentioning. Their editing functionality has some serious flaws. Biggest one to gripe about right now is the lack of an undo feature. REALLY? This is about 15 years behind the times. Infusionsoft, for the price you charge per month, you should at least have a serial UNDO feature. (Tech support said they could recover the lost information for a fee. FOR A FEE? Get real.)
Infusionsoft customers should be asking relentlessly for this simple and basic editing feature.
Forest – this review has been tremendously helpful – thank you for the thought, insight and great communication.
We are seriously considering Infusion Soft for a client who is looking to launch a book in the next year, host webinars, workshops and retreats and eager to grow her list. We think Infusion Soft is the best option, but I appreciate the suggestion to check out Office Auto Pilot (I will do that right now!)
We are in the midst of a website redesign using WordPress. We don’t think we will go the route of monthly membership site, but perhaps with people who are taking a webinar, we will want to offer them exclusive access to stuff online, so great to know Infusion Soft plays well with WordPress.
My clients site is currently yippeeindex.com (soon to be discoveryouryippee.com) just to give you a feel for what we are trying to do.
This long winded comment is just to say Thank You for this great review and for your thoughtful comments above from people like me.
Glad to be of some help, Heidi!
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.
All the best to you with the findyouryippee.com project!
~Forest
We just starting using confusionsoft in our company and the main complaint is the automatic payment plan cannot really be edited to suit our needs as you can only set a specific amount and the payments are based on number of days whereas most of our clients want to pay on a specific day of the month. therefore it won’t jibe as some months have 31 days. Plus once you set any kind of payment plan then want to delete the payment plan you can’t – you can only delete the entire order!
Hey JB,
I hear you. There are a few frustrating things like that in different areas of Infusionsoft. Hopefully, if they hear from enough users about these things, they’ll be able to fix them in the near future, given that they just got $45 million in investment funding, which is leading to them growing their 800 employee company to even more folks.
Hope you can find some kind of a workaround for the inflexibility around the subscription billing set up.
All the best,
Forest
Hi,
has your opinion of creating new email changed? ive not signed up with infusionsoft yet but it seems to be very easy to create new campaigns as well as email using drag and drop. im more worried about leaning how to use such a large and compliacted system as well as the high kick starter fee.
Hi Ben,
Their drag and drop email editor is better than the old classic email editor, but they still don’t have any nice looking html email templates to create good looking emails (like Aweber and Mailchimp have.)
But…I don’t think that’s such a big deal, since plaintext, non-pretty emails tend to get opened and read more than highly customized, pretty (graphically) html email templates.
The new campaign builder in Infusionsoft is interesting. I’m not a huge fan of it yet, but some people love the visual interface that allows you to see the workflow of campaigns.
And yes, there is a steep learning curve with Infusionsoft, and a steep financial entrance for the required training package.
If you’re in the market for this type of app but don’t like the idea of that expensive training package, check out Office Auto Pilot/Ontraport. It’s $300/mo with no required training package. The feature sets are very similar, and OAP can do some things that Infusionsoft can’t do. It’s worth checking out :)
Hope this helps!
Forest
Hi Forest,
I was wondering if there’s any risk with using Infusionsoft for our mailing lists. As in, I believe I heard if you wanted to move your list from one compay’s autoresponder to another, your list has to opt-in all over again to regulations. Have you heard of this situation, and do you think there would be any problems moving an aweber list to infusionsoft?
Hey John,
going from Aweber to Infusionsoft won’t be a problem. It’s the other way around where the problem arises that you’ve heard about. Aweber requires lists to have people on them that have double opted-in, and if you can’t prove that they’ve been double opted-in, Aweber require you to send out an email to your newly imported list, asking them to opt-in again. That typically reduces people’s lists by about 50% of their original size.
Infusionsoft doesn’t have this requirement, at least not that I’m aware of (they may have recently changed something around this that I haven’t been aware of, but I don’t think they have.) So, you’ll be able to import a .csv list from Aweber into infusionsoft and you’ll be able to send emails to them.
They’ll only be single opted-in within infusionsoft though, which means emails to them will be routed through slightly less secure email paths, which means you may have more emails showing up in people’s spam filters.
But talk with Infusionsoft about this before deciding on going with them. There may be a way for you to show proof that your whole list has double opted in through aweber, and they may be able to mark all your imported list as being double opted-in after you import them.
Hope this helps!
Forest
I’m moving to Infusionsoft to get my shopping cart + email marketing all in one place – I use DAP on my membership site – do you have any experience of integrating DAP + Infusionsoft?
thanks
Hi Wendy,
I’ve never integrated Infusionsoft with DAP before, but I know it can be done.
Did you find this help article on the DAP site yet? If not, here it is…it’s about how to set up the integration between the two: http://www.digitalaccesspass.com/doc/infusionsoft-integration/
Hope that helps a bit, and best of luck with the transition to Infusionsoft!